Stone tile seal to resist graffitti & make easy cleanup

[waaahoo]

I'm pursuing projects that are outdoors (mosaics) and are of marble and granite tile. What should I do to make my work graffitti resistant and what should I do to remove graffitti if my work is tagged?

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[doitright]

Welcome Waaahoo! :)

I don't know how effective TYW products are for your application, however in case Tim can't help here's a link to check out:http://www.prosoco.com/ProductList.asp?m=3&i=7

Hope this helps! Don't be a stranger! ;)

[kemguru]

WAAAHOO! YEEHA! YIPPEE! :D

TYW Stone Beauty is our toughest impregnator, but it enhances as well. Most graffiti barriers enhance. Impregnators work in this application, but not as well as a coating. If you don’t mind coating the surface, check out the Prosoco link. If you don’t want to coat the surface, give Stone Beauty a shot. :)

[John Bridge]

Hi Waaahoo, Welcome. :)

You might be interested in the mosaic links on my real web site. :)

Give us a first name, too. :)

http://johnbridge.com/links3.htm#Take%20the%20Mosaic%20Arts%20Tour

[kemguru]

Hey Waaahoo, dont be a stranger, eh? :D

[waaahoo]

Hiya! Me again with more on the same question a whole year (gasp!) later. My how time flys! I'm actually bidding on a project where they want graffitti resist and in reading over the tech data for Prosoco, I see that their product is not for polished granite or marble - eek. That's what I'm proposing to work with. That and some porcelain glazed and glass too. Is there another product that will work for polished surfaces? Thanks!

Eileen :laugh2:

[Steven Hauser]

Hi Eileen,

The problem is it would need to be a coating. Most polished stones don't take coatings very well.

I would change material.

My .02

[doitright]

Hi Eileen :)

Welcome back!

I can't believe it took a year to get a name out of you! :D

Have you contacted the Prosoco tech team direct?

It's possible that their Gloss 'n Guard may work. It's a topical that will grab the polished surface of stone.

[waaahoo]

Well, only a year - not too bad (my how time flys!). I haven't contacted Prosoco directly yet, since thier tech sheet said 'no' on polished surfaces, but I probably should anyhow. I did email Miracle Sealants Co. in Arcadia CA. They seemed to include polished surfaces in their list of what they can seal with their 511 product line. Only thing, they don't seem to list graffiti in their specs, they just comment about it at a site (NTCA) I found in a search. I've submitted my proposal with a quote to seal the mosaic with their stuff once - it was affordable. We'll see if I need to know more or not. So far the other commissions I have ahead of me are indoors in a controlled environment, way up high so I'm not worried. :)

Thanks for your help!!!

Eileen

[waaahoo]

Oh, and if you'd like to get an idea of what kind of mosaics I do, you can go to my web site: www.MosaicsByEileen.com

Eileen :rolleyes:

[doitright]

Hi Eileen :)

Beautiful work! :bow:

Regarding the graffiti issue. If you choose to use a impregnating sealer only, you will be wasting your money. If you choose to use a sacrificial coating (such as Prosoco's Gloss n Guard), it will make the removal easier. BTW, Gloss n Guard will adhere to a polished surface. You would need Fast Acting Stripper to remove the graffiti and layer of Gloss n Guard, at which time you would need to reapply (in the affected areas only).

[waaahoo]

Gotcha. I have been wondering about that. It made more sense to me but I wasn't sure. At the site I mentioned was the only place that Miracle Seal even approached the word 'graffiti'. I like that Prosoco has that specific a use in their products. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

And glad ya like my work. :bow:

Eileen

[waaahoo]

Hi again - In researching the product you recommended, Prosoco's Gloss n Guard, I don't find that product listed in thier line of materials. What I do see definately does not work on polished surfaces either. I've sent them a note, but wondered if you could clarify which product you referrred to.

I'm more concerned than ever since it's looking like I'll get this commission - will know for sure next week how it's looking. It's calendared for actual construction in May so I do have time to find the right product...just worried is all! Thanks.

Eileen :uhh:

[doitright]

Hi Eileen :)

Here's a link to Gloss 'n Guard:

http://www.prosoco.com/Product.asp?ID=168

[waaahoo]

Okay - so the mosaic has evolved to have no stone whatsoever. It's now all glazed porcelain that I am looking to protect from grafitti in an outdoor location. Can you suggest a product that would work well for this? And would using Polyblend sanded grout mixed with Hydroment addmix instead of water for this pup be a good plan? I've done it before for exterior installations and felt it would be a good choice for this one too...thoughts?

To see the work in progress, go to my web site at www.MosaicsByEileen.com and go to the Breaking News page...thanks for all your help!

Eileen

[bml]

Eileen,

I don't know anything about tile but I know that is one beautiful mosaic!!!

[waaahoo]

Thank you! So far I have suggestions for when the piece was a stone mosaic and need updated info for glazed porcelain. I've been told that it's more the grout that would have grafitti stick to it than the tiles but...help!

Eileen

[waaahoo]

Hey there all - Am still researching (and testing on a test panel I made) to find a graffiti barrier whether sacrificial or not. The mosaic is glazed porcelain and grouted with Polyblend DARK blue grout.

So far:
Prosoco - very willing to send samples and try to find the best solution -
--Graffiti Barrier S - left a white film over everything :uhh:
--Sacrificial Coating SC-1 - same problem only worse :uhh:
Just received Sure Klean Weather Seal - Blok-Guard and Graffiti Control & Graffiti Control II to try. We'll see how that does. :twitch:

Mosaic installed (you can see it on my Breaking News page at www.MosaicsByEileen.com) and drying so I hope to coat with something later next week. Raining today - nice grout curing weather!

Any other suggestions welcome!

[waaahoo]

Hi ya'll! My mosaic is installed and sealed. Just wanted to post that the porducts I found to work best for this project (glazed porcelain and Polyblend grout) are:
PROSOCO
Sure Klean® Weatherseal Blok Guard & Graffiti Control II

I created a test panel and found that to be the winning product. PROSOCO also makes a Grafitti Wipe product for pressure wash removal of any grafitti.

:) I'm happy, happy, happy and if you go to
http://mosaicsbyeileen.com/_wsn/page3.html
you can see the project in progress along with a photo of the final results. Thanks again for all your ideas and input to help out on my anti-grafitti search! :yipee:

Hugs, Eileen

[doitright]

Hi Eileen :)

I'm so glad to hear that your persistence with Prosoco paid off! :nod:

Your persistence on your project paid off also. Beautiful work! :bow:

[Steven Hauser]

Waahoo!!!!!!!Thanks for the update.

:)